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History, Psychology and Philosophy of Religion

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    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/8016785/TTC_Video_-_Introduction_to_the_Study_of_Religion

    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5874913/TTC_-_Philosophy_of_Religion

    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6479542/TTC_Video_-_Exploring_the_Roots_of_Religion

    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/8708289/TTC_-_Religion_in_the_Ancient_Mediterranean_World

    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5874911/TTC_-_Comparative_Religion

    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5833338/TTC_-_Philosophy__Religion__and_the_Meaning_of_Life

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology_of_religion

    http://www.apa.org/monitor/2010/12/believe.aspx

    http://file.zums.ac.ir/ebook/144-En...g K. Madden-038771801X-Springer-2010-1020.pdf


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_Gilgamesh
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enûma_Eliš
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_origin_of_religions

    https://www.amazon.com/Religion-Explained-Evolutionary-Origins-Religious/dp/0465006965
    https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Trust-E...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=H9T6GQHBNS6QGYVHMBYJ
    https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Go...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HKAPFK6615VJQ9Z3SD4X
    https://www.amazon.com/Moral-Animal...33228&sr=1-3&keywords=evolutionary+psychology
    https://www.amazon.com/Astrology-Cosmology-Religions-Nicholas-Campion/dp/0814717144
    https://www.amazon.com/Religion-Hum...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=MND8PXGW1RMYE6R27KP2

    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/93..._Why_We_Are__the_Way_We_by_Robert_Wright.epub
    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/10...Religion_in_Human_Evolution._From_the_Paleoli
    https://monoskop.org/images/9/91/Bo...tionary_Origins_of_Religious_Thought_2001.pdf
    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/10200377/In_Gods_We_Trust_(2004)_by_Scott_Atran
    https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6444240/Karen_Armstrong_(A_History_of_God)
     
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    lol whats wrong with one person/source if it happens to be right? :p

    anyway, enjoy...

     
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    because no single person is perfect and also to keep an open mind so that learning never stops, an example of this is the peer reviewed research process (the key word being peer - actually peers) and another example is the field of psychology, the replication of psychological research that is proposed by psychologists to ensure that the research in the field of psychology is reliable

    as for hamza being right or wrong here are other sources



    https://www.youtube.com/user/EssenceOfThought/search?query=hamza
     
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    this is a false equivalency similar to the analogy of finding a watch in a desert, the fact being that we know for a fact human beings have created machines or anything else man made but there is no evidence to show that an entity created existence

    saying something exists when there is no evidence for its existence does equate to the evidence of its existence

    if you want to point out to the complexity of the human body as proof of god check the link below

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps

    so in the end it is NOT a matter of plausibility but a matter of evidence because evidence can alter the understanding of reality and the basis of logic

    this happened every time science made a major discovery for example discovering that there are multiple galaxies, theory of general relativity changing the understanding of the newton's gravity that conforms to common sense, then quantum mechanics challenging the understanding of the nature existence (teleportation/particles coming into existence and going out of existence), now moving towards quantum gravity it will open more questions and challenge our assumptions of what ought to be even further, similar changes can be made to the concept of mortality with the research on telomeres leading cells to reproduce as if they were younger cells
     
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    You know what? You're fooling yourself into thinking you're in search of truth. You're just trying to prove your point, and I'm sorry. I testify that I believe in One God, Allah, and that there's none worthy of worship but Him..
    And I pray that He guides you.

    P.S I'm least interested in any links you post, so you better not waste time searching out links to send me. I have better things to do!
     
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    evidence is for losers who cant think.... who cant infer.. such as animals who need to see or smell a fire to know one..
    as for us humans.. alhamdulillah we have higher senses to infer things.... so the wise can judge themselves..
    and you can keep fooling urself about lack of evidence or whatever.... one of my teachers used to say something to this affect: the mind is a servant lawyer of the heart.... it brings witnesses to satisfy the heart..
    when u dont use the heart to infer things... this is the result...

    true but they can be perfectly right about something.. :p

    its funny how i post less than 10 mins vids and u reply with hours,.... (y)

    "Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs. And for you is destruction from that which you describe." (21:18)
     
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    searching the truth? if by that you mean the existence of a god then no, if by that you mean learning as much as i can then yes

    trying to prove my point? not really, just discussing and looking at both sides i would never want you nor anyone else to leave your faith since that is a personal matter for all individuals

    as for links or my posts just don't check them if you are busy, no biggie, this isn't a debate or an argument
     
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    well, literally all thoughts and feelings are in the brain

    if your point is bias then that would be case for people who come to a conclusion first and justify it later, for example saying something is perfect and then trying to justify that claim without clear evidence

    as for looking at the evidence first and coming to the conclusion later, that is what impartial people do, that is the basis of science and all progress

    the claim of the 'higher sense' cannot be proven to exist nor has it done any good it has just lead to irrational thinking

    following emotions and the 'higher sense' just leads to bad outcomes, just look at the history where religion has suppressed science and progress, the Ashariya School of Thought being a clear example

    yes of course they can be correct, that is why i have given you other sources so that you can see for yourself if that is the case, looking at both sides of a discussion is essential
     
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    Who are you fooling yourself? Wake up seriously.

    If you really think you're not trying to prove your point, tou let me tell you you're at the wrong place for discussion. Because no one here is interested. And I don't get, what then is the purpose for you searching out links & videos, more than half of which you haven't even seen yourself. Got nothing better to do in life? You don't formulate ideas succinctly in your own words... because that is done by ppl who understand...
    Seems like an attempt by you to satisfy your inner self, you know.. think about it! You need an approval, because you aren't sure yourself..
     
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    Well, let me twist your arm, break your bone and fail to believe you're having pain now. Just because you can in no way show me that it's paining. Fair enough?

    Or use a blade to make cut on your arm, and say it just injured the vein so its bleeding, but how can I believe its paining. Give me an evidence, show me the pain.
     
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    The purpose of discussions is to open minds and explore different ideas (why I always try to give both sides to any topic) to challenge one’s preconceived notions because this is how a person’s thought process develops, if ideas were never challenged and if doubt was never there then progress would be far slower.

    Even if challenging one’s own beliefs creates a little bit of uncertainty about how ones perceives people and the world around oneself, that optimal level of stress activates the prefrontal cortex of the brain leading to an improvement of the executive function of the brain, this maturity development of the brain continues till their mid 30s while also providing control over the limbic system (emotional/impulsive part of the brain).

    And since almost everyone over here is either still in their teens or mid 20s, this approach applies, additionally along with the practical input regarding different fields that I can provide should aid the teenage brain to come to terms with reality of their careers, then taking rational decisions rather than jumping into careers without any analysis or at best analysis based upon preconceived ideas that are completely incompatible with reality (this is what most people do, hence, the regret of career choices that people have) the only who have been able to avoid that are the ones who have challenged their notions about everything and looked into the practical realities, then made their choices.

    So the age old uninformed approach of telling teenagers as parents do “grow up”, “show some maturity”, “take responsibility”, etc, it does nothing to help teenagers. Scolding (other other forms of verbal abuse) a child or a teenager has shown to have similar affects upon the brain as physical punishment would have, especially the slapping of the head or the face can lead to concussions (you do not necessarily black-out during a concussion) slowly damaging the brain and if not that, then scolding or simply criticizing (what is needed is critique) drives a child away from studies or any form of constructive thought. Additionally what might not seem like verbal abuse to an adult is perceived very differently by younger people.

    http://jpma.org.pk/full_article_text.php?article_id=2716

    http://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/pn.36.5.0036

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...cks-and-stones-hurtful-words-damage-the-brain

    It is thought leadership that needs to be inculcated into children so that they can decide for themselves and add to that the practical realities of the real world, so that they do not have unrealistic expectations in life, then eventually with continuing effort over a period of several years young children will act a little bit more rational. This is because every thought/action leads to a physical change in the brain by developing axons which if repeated would lead to the development of a synapse.

    http://www.ascd.org/publications/ed...vol72/num01/Motivating-Young-Adolescents.aspx

    http://www.ascd.org/publications/ed...ol65/num05/The_Thought-Filled_Curriculum.aspx

    http://www.educationworld.com/a_curr/encouraging-critical-and-higher-level-thinking.shtml

    http://www.opencolleges.edu.au/informed/features/divergent-thinking/

    And since my life revolves around managing clients, hiring young people and connecting them to employers or work on projects, what I do over here is quite relevant to my work in the field and training fresh graduates who lack the flexibility of thought is too resource intensive.

    So maybe what I am trying to do over here will help someone or maybe it will not nor is it likely that anyone from here will be of any use to me as an organizational resource (yes employers never look at employees as people they look at employees as resources, so whenever an employer is trying to help you they are actually helping themselves), regardless I will keep contributing however I can.
     
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    brain scans

    http://apkarianlab.northwestern.edu/publications/Papers/200706_Baliki.pdf
    http://www.popsci.com/we-see-your-pain-literally
    https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0416/260416-brain-scans-pain
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5019436/
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/pain-cases-may-usher-brain-scans-into-the-courtroom/
    https://www.mdtmag.com/news/2015/08/new-brain-scan-can-objectively-measure-chronic-pain
    http://www.colorado.edu/today/2013/...scovered-brain-scan-patterns-cu-boulder-study
     
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    Thanks, teachyourself. There is much controversial information on this subject
     

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